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NOTE: PermaBond must be used prior to using Deck Revive.
COVERAGE: One gallon covers approximately 350-400 sq ft depending on porosity and condition of the wood.
Use PermaBond with very worn or distressed wood prior to resurfacing with Deck Revive or Dock Revive. Priming poorly maintained wood with this bonding agent will enhance adhesion. It can be tinted to match the final resurfacing product used and to provide color between boards.
- acrylic-based, VOC-free polymer
- applies with brush, roller or sprayer
- tools clean up with water
PermaBond was developed for very worn deck, dock, and concrete surfaces. As a bonding agent, PermaBond offers that extra bit of insurance against some of the unknowns that distressed wood or concrete may have been exposed to. Poorly maintained wood can have a petrified look over time, making it difficult for many products to bond to the wood.
PermaBound is an acrylic-based polymer, specially formulated to penetrate and lock into wood fibers and concrete surfaces providing a strong molecular bond for Deck Revive, Dock Revive and Concrete Revive. We encourage the use of this product if you should have any doubts about the condition of your wood or concrete surface. Priming with PermaBond will ensure bondability with most subsurface applications.
PermaBound can be tinted the same color as the final Deck, Dock, or Concrete resurfacing product you use from Gulf Synthetics. This helps achieve color matching between the spaces of the deck boards. The product can be sprayed, brushed or rolled on and tools clean up easily with water.
Perma Bond/Perma Fill Brochure
What is the maximum amount of time between filling knots with Ranger and applying Permabond?
Ther is no max time.
We have an old wood deck that was peeling and rough in areas. We pressure washed and scraped to get off the peeling paint. We had a gallon of Rocksolid, and I used it more or less as a primer as there was a lot of bare wood. It only got 1 coat. If I were to purchase the deck revive kit, would there be issues because of the “primer” coat I put down?
You have to use our Permabond, not theirs. You can apply our product over theirs before the Deck Revive.
85 degrees Fahrenheit is air temp or board temperature? I’m at 77 degrees air temp and the boards are over 100 degrees in full sun at 12:38 pm here in Massachusetts.
Can I use this on the floor of a storage building? It was built about 5 months ago, just now taking delivery, floor is 3/4 inch OSB, should be clean, like new condition. Looking for something non skid and that will withstand possible gas or motor oil exposure. Building will be used for mower, 4 wheeler and motorcycles. If your product works for this, will I need to use primer?
This is not designed for your application.
HI! I understand that the PERMABOND can be tinted to match the topcoat. How do I go about doing this since I’ll be shipping it to Canada? Thx!
Do not tint the Permabond. Use as is and then 2 coats of the Deck Revive.
The data sheet for the permabond clearly states that you can add 1 qt of acrylic latex to tint it the same color as the revive topcoat.
It is not suggested to do that anymore. Use it straight for best performance.
It says on the can to tint permabond
Do not tint the Permabond for best results. Use as is.
Also can you use the permabond with other paints or only the deck revive?
That would be more of a question for the paint manufacturer if a primer can be used before their product.
How long is the Deck revive good for after it has been mixed with the acrylic paint?
It has to be used right away, within hours.
It has to be used right away, within hours of mixing.
Perma Bond is meant to be used untinted and as the primer before the Deck Revive. Add your gloss acrylic latex paint into the Deck Revive for your color.
Can permabond and Deck Revive be applied to new boards?
New wood has to weather for 3 months and then pressure washed for prep.
Can Permabond be applied with a roller (9″ nap roller)?
How long does it take to cure before applying Deck Revive?
Yes, roll on the Permabond. You can apply the Deck Revive as soon as the Permabond is dry to the touch. Couple of hours.
I have a pine deck with a ppg brand solid stain that is flaking off in several areas. I plan to pressure wash properly but not all of it might come off. Will I need to sand off all of the remaining old solid stain after the pressure wash or can permabond go over it and then deck revive?
You can cover the intact stain that is not peeling.
Can you use regular wood filler for holes in deck prior to permanent bond and deck revive instead of using concrete patch?
Use this for best results: https://www.gulfsynthetics.com/ranger-patch-concrete-repair-kit.html
Regual wood filler does not work that well.
If I am applying 1 coat of permabond with colored paint added, do I still need to apply 2 coats of deck revive? Do I need to add paint to permabond if using 2 coats of deck revive??
Yes, you will need two coats of Deck Revive, and best to not add paint to the Permabond.
Does the quality of the paint used effect the mix of the kit
No.
Thank you for your earlier answer.
I will add a gallon of gloss paint to the deck revive. what is the final finish once mixed?
It will be the same color as the gloss acrylic latex exterior paint color that you choose. It will not be shinny though.
Cleaned, prepped and dried deck. No rain in forecast. Applied Permanond in early afternoon. Late afternoon brief rain storm on top of the permabond. It’s now evening and the permabond has not dried.
Going forward, do you have any suggestions?
thank you
Let dry and then you will need to recoat with the Permabond before using the Deck Revive. Both need to be done on the same day.
My deck had been painted by previous owner, does all paint need removed? I have powerwashed and clean it. All loose paint is gone. Next move is?
No need to remove all old paint so the next move is the Permabond and then the Deck Revive.
I’m adding a small alcove to my old deck. Is permabond and DR ok to use on recently purchased treated lumber or should I let it weather for a year? Thank you.
Need 3 months of weathering for new wood.
Can I use permabond as a primer under paint on the areas of my deck that I need painted to match?
A deck paint yes, but not a deck stain.
How long can you wait after painting on permabond to begin painting on deck revive? Would overnight be okay?
No, apply Deck Revive the same day.
I wateched the YouTube video and read the instructions, but neither said that it was critical to apply the deck revive the same day.
We put the permabond on yesterday afternoon and plan to paint with deck revive starting this morning after the deck dries from dew. Will there be issues?
It will be fine.
Can Perma Bond and deck revive be used over a deck surfaced with Deck Restore, which is mostly intact but peeling in spots?
The Deck Revive cannot fix the issues that Rust-oleum Deck Restore has with peeling. While you could use it over it, the Rust-oleum Deck Restore will still have potential issues under the Deck Revive.
Can we use the permabond and then just regular outdoor paint for surfaces that do not require texturing?
No, do not use the Permabond prior unless using the Deck Revive.
Can you use Perma Bond on Concrete Backer Board?
Yes.
Great. Thank you. Another question. I have read from a few people…….that they are putting a top coat of concrete sealer for a wet look and have had no issues. Some ….4 years and going strong still….. apparently easier cleaning as well. I would not do this type of application on my deck however…….but I have a little interior project I’m scheming about…….and it’s a vertical surface about 60 sq ft. and the wet look and ease of cleaning is appealing to me. Would this be a horrible idea?
Never top coat over the Deck Revive. It will peel.
I have ordered a deck revive kit and the perma bond to use on my very worn 200 square ft. dock. I applied a cleaner/brightener to the dock a few weeks before I found your product, which you do not recommend. I have pressure washed the deck twice since, and feel certain that there is no cleaning product residue on the dock. After the second pressure wash, I hand sanded most of the dock because there were small flakes of paint coming off and the wood looked kinda fuzzy from the wash. Then I read that it’s best to finish prep with a pressure wash and not a sanding. Do you think it is necessary for me to give the dock another quick wash, or do you think it is okay to start the deck revive steps after the sand? I plan to use the perma bond and then apply the quickcrete in several places that have large cracks from wear and weather. Then will apply the perma bond on top of everything and use the deck revive mixed with gloss paint on the same day. One more question – when applying the perma bond and the deck revive, how important is it to get a good coat between the deck boards? I read to apply first against the wood grain then a coat with the grain. Is it necessary for me to use a brush and cut in between the boards, or do you think the roller will get enough coverage there? The last finish on the dock was paint but it has been 90% sanded off. The dock is not covered and takes a beating from the weather. It is also in a swampy section of a lake in South Georgia which is very humid and prone to mildew in rainy spells. Looking forward to using the product. Thanks for your help.
You should be okay to apply the Permabond and then the Deck Revive now. Hard to say if the roller will get between the boards as that would depend on the gap width, etc. It is more for aesthetic appearance anyhow.
Can I use Deck Revive on the vertical plywood on the side of the house? I used Deck Revive on the front and back decks last year and want it all to match. I am also hoping it will cover up the grain on the plywood. If not, what do you suggest? It needs to be a thicker product than paint.
Yes, you can use it on vertical wood.
Hello I am considering using deck revive to restore my old worn deck. I used a belt sander to remove the previous coating of paint. Do I need to now pressure wash my deck? I need to know how to prep to apply the deck revive product and how much to buy for a 15’x20’ deck.
Yes, pressure wash for the final prep. Two of the Deck Revive Kits.
Why preasure wash instead of sand?Do you know if deck revive can be mixed with a clear product? And do you know of any?My local paint store only carries semi gloss exterior acrylic. Is semi gloss sufficient?
Pressure washing opens up te pores while sanding closes the pres. It has to be gloss paint. You cannot mix it with a clear.
Does Permabond adhere to composite decking?
Yes.
I am planning to use perma bond, quikcrete, and DR on our deck. On the railings I was going to paint with the same paint color, but not use the textured Deck Revive.
To fill cracks on railing, should I still use both perma bond and quikcrete before using the latex paint? Or is it a different process since I won’t be using the DR?
Use the same.
We recently moved to a building in downtown Chicago; it has a large outdoor concrete terrace. The terrace is about 10 years old and has not been maintained very well. It currently has a gray coating/finish on it – I am not sure what it is. There are a couple small areas that need to be patched and one or two cracks. One contractor suggested that we need to use muriatic acid first; however, i am very reluctant to do this. Therefore, I am looking for other options. Could we use your Permabond product, followed by DeckRevive? Also, what do you recommend for patching? thanks!!
You can use the Permabond and the Deck Revive on this. For patching, use the Quikrete Quick Setting Filler .
What’s the longest I can wait to apply concrete revive after applying PermaBond? I just put on the PermaBond but realized I can’t do the Concrete Revive today. Can I wait 24 hours? After what point will I need a new coat of PermaBond?
Needs to be the same day.
How do you tint the permabond?
No need and works better if you do not.
Do you recommend caulking before or after applying PermaBond?
Before.
Cracks and holes on my deck have been filled with latex caulk. Can I just apply permabond then deck revive over it. Or do I need to remove caulk and use Perma Fill instead?
You can apply over it
Can Perma Bond/Concrete Revive be used on brick?
No, not designed for brick.
My deck was painted with 2 coats of deck revive 4+ years ago. At that time some cracks and gaps in the top rail were filled with plastic wood and/or caulking. I plan to add 1 coat of deck revive, tinted the same color as before, to all of the flat surfaces. Before doing so, I will power wash and plan to clean out and fill the former gaps with permanent fill. The plan is: power wash, wait minimum of 48 hours to dry, fill gaps with permanent fill, paint with deck revive. How long do I have to wait between filling the gaps and applying deck revive? Will the perm fill take on the same color as the tinted deck revive?
You have to use the Permabond prior to both adding the Permafill and the Deck Revive. You apply the coatings as soon as the prior is dry.
How has the deck revive held up over 4 years?
Can PermaBond be used as a primer for outdoor concrete paint as well as the Revive products? I want to paint stone slabs on the top of a patio retaining wall and thought PermaBond might be a good primer. (I haven’t ruled out using ConcreteRevive on this surface but may just want paint since it would be smoother).
No, it is not a primer for other products.
Similar to Rich below, but using Fir (kiln dried, HT, No 2, nominal 2″x12″) for my exterior stair treads. I live in the pacific northwest. I stored the wood for 6 months in my dry heated basement. I will be painting all sides before installation. Fasteners will be on bottom face only. I plan to paint using Benjamin Moore Products … Arborcoat Oil primer and top coat with Floor & Porch Latex Enamel.
I have already removed the “mill glaze”. I was intending to add my paintable WRP (Water Repellant Preservative) next.
The folks at Deckstainhelp.com recommended your Permafil product to fill knot holes. I was also intending to use it for cracks.
Does Permafil cure hard or flexible?
Can Permafil be top coated with oil based primer?
When do you advise using Permafil… before or after applying WRP?
Hard. It can be top-coated.
I am building an exterior staircase with just four steps using new, non-treated, 5/4 southern yellow pine treads. I will be painting all sides of the treads for maximum rot resistance. I’m looking for an extremely durable paint which will offer long-term protection that will hold up in our harsh conditions here in Vermont. I saw your product at a builders conference and was very impressed. What do you think of using the Deck Revive 1/4 kit for this application?
Yes, it will work very well for a staircase.
Thanks for your quick follow up. Do I need to prime with Perma Bond, even though it’s new wood? Do I need to wait until the wood weathers for several months, or can I just sand with 120 grit to remove any milling sheen then apply two coats of Deck Revive?
You always have to use the Permabond first. Wait for a few months and then pressure wash for prep. Do not sand.
As I think about it, I’m not sure this would be a feasible plan. The SYP treads I’m looking to use are not treated and our conditions are very wet here in Vermont. The treads will almost certainly cup or warp after being left untreated for a few months. Plus, I would have to remove them when it’s time to paint them in order to be able to do the underside, which is critical with non-treated lumber. I can certainly unscrew them, but that usually results in splintering. My hope was to be able to finish the boards (on all sides), install them, then apply one final coat on top.
Why are you using non-pressure treated SYP lumber in an outdoor application? Cedar, redwood, IPE yes(maybe), but SYP external life span without it will fail in short order, that is why it gets pressure treated for the great outdoors, so it lasts. Stains and paints “aid” in the appearance and offer some added durability but are not swap out substitutes for pressure treated SYP.
Tim
I applied everything the way you said to (Deck Revive over Permabond) on new pressure washed cedar but it has peeled, about a 2" diameter spot. I still have some Permabond left from 2 years ago sealed in a container. Can I reapply it to use with Deck Revive or do I need to by more new Permabond?
It should be okay as long as it has not frozen in the last two years.
I have a 500sq ft deck in poor shape. I have purchased (2) Permabond, (3) Permafill, and (3) DeckRevive. I see you should prep spots under the Permafill with the bond, that dry time is about 60min for the bond, and you should apply the Deckrevive asap after the bond is dry. A significant portion of my deck will need varying degrees of Permafill, so I want to apply the bond to the entire deck then fill in the cracks and knots etc. Also, because my deck is so bad and pourous, I plan to put the quart of paint in with the bond.<br><br>I guess I’m just trying to understand 1) how long will it take for the Permafill to dry? 2)Do I have to coat the fill with the bond again before the revive? 3)This seems like a lot to get accomplished "immediately" after the bond is dry. Any pointers in how to get all of this accomplished timing wise?
<p>1. A couple of hours.</p><p>2. Yes, that helps.</p><p>3. Have a few helpers :)</p>
On the PDS sheet, 2 different roller nap thicknesses are listed. 3/8" and 3/4" (under application and equipment respectively) . Which is correct?<br>
Either is fine.
Understand either is fine, which is recommended/preferred?
Does not matter. Whichever you would like will work.
Understand either is fine, which is recommended/preferred?
I completed install of permabond and before starting the install of Deck Revive was called away on an emergency. Can I assume its ok to put on another coat of permabond on top of the 3 day old previous coat? Do I need to add another coat at all? Thankyou
Yes, apply another coat of Permabond at this point.
I know you say you don’t have to tint the PermaBond, but I want to, since my deck is very porous. What product do I add to tint the PermaBond? The same acrylic glossy outdoor paint that I’m adding to the Deck Revive? And what size? A quart added to a gallon of PermaBond? Thanks for your clarification.
Can this be applied to new PT wood that is starting to crack and has some splinters?
Yes.
My deck currently has Rustoleum Deck & concrete on it. It is peeling in many places. Is there any problem applying your product over their product? I plan to pressure wash the deck to remove any loose and flaking areas.
Applying the Deck Revive on top of the Rustoleum will not fix the underlying issues that the Rustoleum has with continual peeling. You should remove the Rustoleum first.
Can Perma Bond be used with a product like Behr Deckover? Thanks.
The Permabond is designed for the use of Deck/Dock Revive products and not other brands.
I would like to have the items by Friday 9/16, is that possible if I order today?
This depends on where you live. Best to call us to discuss at 866-856-3325.
Where can I purchase PermaBond and Deck Revive? I am in Wisconsin near Appleton , Green Bay , Oshosh
Only from our website. All items ship free. Takes about 2-3 days to arrive to Wisconsin.
Hi- How do I color the perma bond? Would a paint store add the color even though I am buying it from you? And do they add the same thing/amount that they add to the gallon for in the deck revive? Thanks
No need to color the Permabond. Apply it clear.