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Perma Bond/Perma Fill Brochure
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08/06/2020
Discontinued - Not sold anymore.
Discontinued - Not sold anymore.
We would recommend Quikrete Quick Setting Filler as an option. You can buy small plastic containers of it at any local hardware store.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI see you no longer carry “Permafill” what should we use instead. I saw quikrete as an option, but I’m using it on wood. Will that still work?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyWe would recommend Quikrete Quick Setting Filler as an option. It will work on wood.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI have a couple of questions about the Quickcrete application before we get started this weekend.
#1: Make sure deck is clean and dry, Tape around edges to prevent splatters
#2 Apply Quickcrete cement filler to fill any large cracks, knotholes, etc.
- This can be done the day before, correct?
- Does this need to be sanded after it drys?
#3 Apply permabond
- Does the permabond need to be applied over the Quickcrete filled places before it is applied to the entire deck?
# Mix and apply 2 coats of DR same day that the permabond is applied.-
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYou have to spot apply Permabond first to any areas the Quickcrete will be used. This can be done day prior. Do not sand. Apply Permabond over all wood and filler before using the DR. Apply the DR the same day for both coats.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyGot it. So then the Permabond doesn't have to be used all the same day like the DR. - Spot apply Permabond to the areas where we are going to use Quickcrete.
- Apply Quickcrete to fill cracks/wood knots, etc. (Can be done ahead of time)
Then, same day……
- Apply Permabond over the entire surface.
- And the same day apply 2 coats of DR.
My husband is a graphic designer. You guys should have him create a one-page infographic. Think of all the time you would save answering questions- hahaha.-
We will reply to your comment shortlyYes all is correct in your steps!
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We will reply to your comment shortlyHi, since this is discontinued is there a wood filler you can recommend we use instead? Does it have to be any special kind, paintable, etc?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyAs mentioned above, we would recommend Quikrete Quick Setting Filler as an option. You can buy small plastic containers of it at any local hardware store.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyJust added on to deck with new boards etc. Wondering if I should let new boards age a bit before using the "Deck Revive" or can I get ahead of the deterioration game by applying the Deck revive now?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYou must let them weather for 3+ months.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyWhy is Perma Fill discontinued? I assume Quikrete cement filler is not for wood decks. Any preferred wood fillers for use with Deck Revive?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYes, you can use the Quickcrete filler for wood decks.
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We will reply to your comment shortly1. So you are suggesting to apply the Quikrete over cracks and knots in the wood deck? Should the Perma Bond be applied first?
2. Can 1/2 of the dry grit be added to the DR for a smoother surface?
3. After the 2nd coat of DR, can a 3rd coat of DR be applied in a complementary color in some areas via stencils as long as it’s within the 24 hour time?-
We will reply to your comment shortly1. Apply Permbaond over any areas you use the filler first. Permabond over all after prior to applying the DR.
2. No.
3. Yes.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI just purchased perma fill, perma bond, and deck revive for my deck. I was going to power wash it first but had to stop and won’t be able to power wash because the wood was to old and would become worse from power washing . Is it absolutely necessary to power wash before using these products? I did get a deck cleaning detergent should I just wash it with that even though it probably won’t make the wood look much better on it’s own? I’m so bummed out I was so excited about this project now wondering even if I can proceed with it.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYes, you have to pressure wash, and no, do not use the cleaner as it could cause an adhesion issue with the products. Your issue with the pressure washing is your technique is incorrect and too aggressive. Wash 6-10 inches away and with a pendulum motion. You may also want to hire a local pressure washing company to do the prep.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI am about to restore my wood deck, and plan to use Perma-Fill to plug any knots/cracks (using Perma-Bond first to spot treat), then use Perma-Bond as a primer, and then finally I will be using the Deck Revive along with paint. I have already pressure-washed the deck and am waiting for 48 hours without any rain before I can move forward with the project.
I have seen some conflicting information between the comments and instructions provided and wondering if you can please confirm the following?
1. Does my old deck need to be sanded before using any of the products? I have tried to use a belt sander put it is having a very hard time taking the paint off although in other areas the paint is literally pealing off. Please can you let me know if I need to peel/sand as much as possible, or can I leave as is? Attached are pictures of the current deck which has a ton of peeling paint and is more worn in other areas.
2. If I do need to sand, should I also do the same for all of the railings? Do you recommend a belt sander or an orbit/palm sander?
3. If we have no rain for 48 hours and I start on Day 1 with Perma-Fill (with perma-bond first), I then need how much time approximately before then using the Perma-Bond to coat the entire deck?
4. Once I apply the Perma-Bond, how long do I need to wait before applying the first coat of Deck Revive? I am hoping to finish all of this in 1 or 2 days, but again I need to be able to plan things around the fact we get a lot of afternoon Thunderstorms.
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We will reply to your comment shortly1. You will need to remove any loose/peeling paint first. You can cover the paint that is not peeling and is intact to the wood.
2. See above. Any sander will work.
3. As soon as the fill is dry.
4. Permabond and Deck Revive need to go on the same day. The fill can go on any day prior or the same day, it just has to be dry before applying the bond.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyHow dry does the wood need to be before using this product? It's raining today and I had wanted to use it tomorrow. Also, how long does it need to set before priming it?
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We will reply to your comment shortly48 hours to dry and use the Permabond.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyHi, I have some areas with wood rot in my deck. What's the most recommended way to fill large gaps? Should I use something like wood hardener before perma fill? How big is too big of a hole not to use perma fill?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyIt will work on areas that are up to 1 inch deep. Use a putting knife. Wood hardener will not work for rot.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyWhat is the lowest temperature at which PermaBond and PermaFill can be used?
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We will reply to your comment shortly50 degrees.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI have 2 x 6 boards on my deck and I have a large hole from rot. The rot has been removed and I now have a hole that is 3" wide and over 1" deep. Can I use Permafil to fill the hole?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYes.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyNot being sure how much Perma Fill I will need on a 435 square foot deck (not in real bad condition) some not holes and cracks. Is it allowed to return one gallon if it has not been opened?<br>Thank You.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYou can but you will be subject to our policy here: <a href="https://www.gulfsynthetics.com/terms-and-conditions.html">https://www.gulfsynthetics.com/terms-and-conditions.html</a>
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI applied permafill to cracks and gaps WITHOUT applying the permabond first....... what's the worst case scenario ? best case?<br>plan to apply perbond over then revive
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI may peel eventually int those areas but should most likely be okay.
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We will reply to your comment shortly1. What is the life of PermaFill once it has been mixed?<br>2. Is PermaFill sandable?<br>3. Is PermaBond usable under any latex solid color stain (I am considering using on cedar siding)?
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We will reply to your comment shortly<p>1. Couple of hours.</p><p>2. Best to not sand.</p><p>2. The PermaBond can be used as a primer for most paints but best to ask the manufacturer of the paint to see if a primer does work with their product.</p>
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We will reply to your comment shortlyTo expand on the previous question, you say to spot treat cracks with PermaBond , then fill cracks with PermaFill. Does this also apply to counter-sunk screw holes? Also, my deck is very large and will take longer to complete all these steps. Can I fill the cracks/screw holes with PermaBond and PermaFill now, then wait a month or two for better weather to apply PermaBond and DeckRevive to finish the deck? Thanks!!
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We will reply to your comment shortlyAny areas that you want to apply PermaFill, you will need to spot treat first with Permabond. It would best to not wait a month between. Try to do as soon as possible.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyI ordered the Deck Revive and Perma Bond but then I saw the Perma Fill. My deck is really old and weathered with deep grooves. Should I get the Perma Fill and start with that? If so, will the Perma Bond adhere to the Perma Fill? Meaning should I 1) Perma Bond 2) Perma Fill 3) Deck Revive. Thanks in advance!<br><br>-Amber
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We will reply to your comment shortlyThis would help to fill grooves. Spot apply the Permabond in those grooves first. Let dry and apply Permafill. Let dry and apply the Permabond to all the wood before using the Deck Revive.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyTo apply this to an approximately 200 sq ft weathered deck. I will need the deck revive kit, the perma bond, the perma fill, and anything else other than a roller, possibly drop cloth, tape and a brush?
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We will reply to your comment shortlyYou need a gallon of gloss acrylic latex paint pre-tinted to the color you choose. A 5-gallon drill mixer that fits on a drill as well.
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We will reply to your comment shortlyCan this product be used with stain only to fill in big cracks (i.e. not with Deck Revive kit?)
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We will reply to your comment shortlyIt will not blend to match with a semi-transparent stain. It will work if you use a solid color stain to cover it.
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